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The 1834 attacks came inside a revolt against Egyptian conscription, and Egypt's army sacked Hebron
The claim
“The 1834 attacks on Jewish communities in Safed and Hebron in which synagogues were burnt down and dozens of Jews were murdered, some of them through lynching suggest that local anti-Semitism was rising before Theodor Herzl was even born, much less created Modern Zionism.”Made by Reuven Roslyn (public account, Quora writer on Israel and Palestine).
Where it was posted: Quora, in an answer to "How would Shammai and Hillel treat the Palestinians?"
What the evidence shows
True parts arranged to give a false impression.
The 1834 events were the Peasants’ Revolt in Palestine, a rebellion against Egyptian conscription and taxation under Ibrahim Pasha, running May to August 1834. What triggered it was Ibrahim Pasha’s order to conscript 1 in 5 Muslim males plus new taxation categories that departed from both Ottoman and Islamic law. The rebels were peasants, urban notables and Bedouin.
The Safed attack on the Jewish community was real and it was wrong, but it happened inside a revolt against Egyptian conscription, and your second example is an Egyptian army leveling a Palestinian city.
Rabbinic Judaism emerged after 70 CE as the response to the destruction. That’s what Yavneh and the Mishnah are. Jews did bring Passover sacrifices right up to 70 CE. A compromised priesthood didn’t shut the sacrificial system down.
“More than two million Jews (30-60% of Jews worldwide)” rests on Josephus’s figures, which historians treat as heavily inflated.
You state Hillel’s principle yourself: “Jews must take all possible measures to ensure minimum harm to civilians.” Then you test Israel against it up to November 2023 and stop. Two years of war after that. The famine declaration. The death toll. The September 2025 UN Commission of Inquiry finding (A/HRC/60/CRP.3), covering October 2023 to July 2025, which found four of the five genocidal acts.
All in all, the one piece of evidence you offered for pre-Zionist Palestinian anti-Jewishness was a battle where an Egyptian army destroyed a Palestinian city.
Update after the debate. In the comments that followed I conceded two points. Rabbinic Judaism did not begin in 70 CE; it was what remained after 70. And the two million figure also takes the later wars from Cassius Dio, not from Josephus alone, though Dio’s numbers get the same caution. The whole exchange is recorded here.
First published in my Quora debunk archive.
Evidence
The 1834 revolt against Ibrahim Pasha's conscription and taxes, from the Islamic court records of Jerusalem.
Book 6, 420: the 1,100,000 dead of the siege, the figure the two million total starts from.
The September 2025 Commission of Inquiry finding the answer stops short of.
On UN commission of inquiry concludes Israel has committed genocide in Gaza
The Commission found that Israeli authorities and security forces committed four of the five acts defined in the Genocide Convention: killing, causing serious bodily or mental harm, deliberately imposing conditions of life meant to destroy Palestinians, and imposing measures to prevent births.
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The famine declaration of August 2025.
On Famine confirmed in Gaza Governorate
FAO, UNICEF, WFP and WHO said the IPC analysis affirmed on the basis of reasonable evidence that famine criteria had been met, with more than half a million people trapped in famine.
affirms on the basis of reasonable evidence
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Events this claim is about
- 22 August 2025Famine confirmed in Gaza Governorate
- 16 September 2025UN commission of inquiry concludes Israel has committed genocide in Gaza
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